GeoCities and Generosity: An Interview of Tech Pioneer David Bohnett
From building GeoCities to building a better world
I had the pleasure of interviewing GeoCities co-founder, David Bohnett, where we discussed his background, his philanthropic efforts, GeoCities, and touched on the past and future of the internet.
Below you will find the 30-minute video1 of the interview, followed by some of my thoughts on and fond memories of GeoCities, as well as a little on a few of the other topics we discussed.
But before that, I want to properly introduce the man, who quite frankly has a lot going on—all of which have the goal of helping people and making the world a better place. Based on my research and this interview, David appears to be someone who has truly devoted his life to philanthropy.
Who is David Bohnett?
David is a philanthropist, an LGBTQ+ rights advocate, tech entrepreneur, and the founder and managing member of Baroda Ventures (a venture capital firm specializing in pre-seed and seed tech investments). According to his Baroda biography, he “is currently serving as Chairman of the Wallis Annenberg Center for the Performing Arts, Chairman of the David Bohnett Foundation, Vice Chair of the Board of the Los Angeles Philharmonic Association, and Trustee of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, amfAR (The Foundation for AIDS Research), Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) and the University of Southern California (USC).” And that is leaving out a lot of stuff too!
The Interview
Video also available on YouTube, here (in 3 parts).
Transcript of interview is below, or you can click here.
GeoCities
I’ve only briefly talked about GeoCities here before—but it had a huge influence on me, was my first social media platform and helped me teach myself HTML. So I feel I should dedicate more space to sharing my experience with GeoCities. It introduced me to whole communities, new ideas, and generally was a very pleasant way to be introduced to the world wide web.
If you aren’t too familiar with GeoCities, here is a nice rundown from Blade’s Place:
When GeoCities first started offering free web pages to the public, they decided to create them in themed neighborhoods. Each neighborhood was then divided into 'blocks', which was a four digit number between 1000 to 9999. So, a user would adopt a four digit block in the neighborhood of their choice. Thus, a user would then have their own web pages located at a URL in this format: http://www.geocities.com/neighborhood/XXXX ('XXXX' would be the four digit block number number). The whole management of each Neighborhood was run by volunteers - known as 'Community Leaders' (CL's), which is what made the GeoCities experience so special.
However, this meant that there could only ever be a maximum of 9000 users in each neighborhood. So, Suburbs (often known as 'burbs) were created in each neighborhood (decided by the Community Leaders), and would be named to fit in with the theme of the neighborhood. Each suburb also had its own blocks, and when the filled up, more suburbs in the neighborhood could easily be created. ...
The whole process was known as 'homesteading', and each user had their own 'homestead'. Community leaders helped out each 'homesteader', and created a friendly atmosphere which contributed to the rapid explosion of personal web pages...
Here are all of GeoCities’ neighborhoods:
Area 51
Athens
Augusta
Baja
BourbonStreet
Broadway
CapeCanaveral
CapitolHill
CollegePark
Colosseum
EnchantedForest
Eureka
FashionAvenue
Heartland
Hollywood
HotSprings
MadisonAvenue
Motorcity
NapaValley
Nashville
Paris
Pentagon
Petsburgh
Picketfence
Pipeline
Rainforest
ResearchTriangle
RodeoDrive
SilconValley
Soho
SouthBeach
SunsetStrip
TelevisionCity
TheTropics
TimesSquare
Tokyo
Vienna
Wallstreet
Wellesley
WestHollywood
Yosemite
NorthPole
And that’s not counting their respective suburbs. My old GeoCities homestead was in Baja/Dunes. I remember my site had a green background, mostly red and black text, some music and a lot of animated GIFs. It was in the Baja/Dunes/2000s block, but beyond that I don’t remember. I tried finding it multiple times on the Wayback Machine but I don’t think it got archived, sadly.2
I don’t really recall getting any kind of help from my neighborhood’s community leader, but I did meet a guy who had a very nice (for the time) Ozzy Osbourne fan page. He helped me out a whole bunch, giving me HTML and various technical tips, letting me know how GeoCities was organized, and much more even after I said I wasn’t an Ozzy fan. That guy was I think the first internet stranger I really talked to, and he took the time to help me just out of the goodness of his heart. Who does that sort of thing today?
And it wasn’t just helpful people, the mere existence of the wide variety of personally designed websites gave this rainforest of diversity in web design alone. Surf through random neighborhoods on GeoCities and you would be inundated with wild, crazy good, crazy bad, interesting, eye-catching websites. If you saw something you like, just view the page source, copy the HTML and paste it in your own site editor. Tinker as needed! We all sort of copied and iterated off one another and web design evolved rapidly! Good times.
David did mention the first web advertisements—I remember seeing the little buttons at first, but later came the banner ads. Like the “TechWire” banner you can see in top of the screenshot below:
Shortly after those banner ads started appearing, a free ad-sharing network popped up (I can’t remember if it was JavaScript or just advanced HTML, but essentially you would input the code and a random banner would appear on your page. And your banner would be cycled through as well across thousands of other homepages). I joined one, hopped in Microsoft Paint and created a banner ad for my own homepage. Got a few dozen views from that in the first month or so if I recall. This was cutting edge stuff and it was exciting!
And guestbooks! I guess we have comment sections now, but back then many, many homepages had guestbooks. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bad guestbook entry, so either people were nicer back then, the website owners and/or Community Leaders had a good handle on things, or both, but it’s another pleasant, community-tightening thing that more or less disappeared when GeoCities went away.
I don’t think I can adequately describe the wonder and goodness that was GeoCities back in the mid-late 90s, and I don’t think it’s entirely my nostalgic bias speaking. I genuinely think we lost many nice things GeoCities was known for. But like David said, there’s the good and the bad with every new day, and we have to take them both.
Despite my gloom, there’s always room for optimism.
From his 2018 commencement address at the Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy, David said his “idea for GeoCities was all about my passion for empowering others, giving everybody a voice, and the chance to contribute and participate in the new medium of the internet. Through my own personal experience in business and in life, in coming out as a gay man, I saw how powerful it was to stand up and have a voice, to be able to meet other people of similar interest, and share my thoughts and ideas in an open and welcoming environment.” I think not only did he wildly succeed in empowering others and lead the way for social media by setting a good example, he helped fashion the culture of knowledge sharing, community building, creative expression, and exchange of ideas the internet is so great for. We would be wise to continue to build upon the ideals and legacy of GeoCities.
And if you’re so inclined, you can still take a walk down memory lane with NeoCities. NeoCities is pretty much the modern reincarnation of GeoCities, made for people eager to craft their own personal websites with a nod to the DIY ethos of the early web. It's a place for creative web-building, is an ad-free and open-source environment where you can learn to code, share your work and ideas, and connect with a community. In fact, I made one just for this interview:
The David Bohnett Foundation
While my main focus was GeoCities, I did want to further highlight David’s foundation. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been given out by his foundation toward many causes. I wanted to ask more about the Animal Language endeavors, but our time was limited.
In any case, here are the main focuses of his foundation:
LGBTQ+: the foundation provides grants to the this community, and “are proud funders and advocates in support of groups and organizations that strive to provide equal rights and protections for all LGBTQ people.”
CyberCenters: his foundation helps provide computers and technology to the LGBTQ+ community, from city centers to college campuses.
Leadership Initiatives: the foundation provides fellowships, “empowering society through the next generation of leaders.”
Gun Violence Prevention: grants to various entities dedicated to preventing gun violence. David did mention gun safety, which to me—as the product of a rural, gun-loving small town—is distinct from other types of gun programs, but very important and appreciated.
Fund for Los Angeles: many grants given to various causes in the Los Angeles area.
Animal Language: David’s foundation is “committed to the health and well being of all of our animal friends and to better appreciating and understanding great apes and chimps through animal language research.” I really need to look into how close we are at really communicating with other species—it’s so interesting, we could learn so much.
A little about Effective Altruism
In a nutshell, Effective Altruism (EA) is a philosophy and movement that employs evidence and reason to maximize good by focusing on impactful causes like global health, poverty alleviation, and preventing existential risks. It’s really trying to get the most bang for your philanthropic buck, so-to-speak.
From my admittedly limited research, there is or at least was an emerging split in the EA community between those desiring to focus on immediate, tangible issues like malaria and homelessness versus the “longtermists” who are more focused on preventing existential risks like pandemics or an AI apocalypse. I think most people would agree both are important to consider, but David definitely sides more with the immediate needs side. I tend to agree, but as David noted, all kinds of philanthropy should be encouraged.
*Note: I want to apologize to the Effective Altruism community. I brought up the topic of EA with David in the interview and was ill-prepared to discuss it. Part of it was nervousness, but mostly I wasn’t familiar enough to confidently talk about it. Sorry. Lesson learned.
GIF
And importantly, according to perhaps the most authoritative voice on the issue, GIF is in fact, pronounced with a hard G. I know, intellectually, David is probably correct here, but I've always said it as jiff—I may be in the minority but it just sounds better in my opinion. No apologies!
Related Links
David Bohnett’s Wikipedia entry
A Google search for GeoCities (notice the font)
Gizmodo interview with David from 2022
And again, I want to thank David for taking the time out of his very busy schedule to do this interview. It was informative, interesting, and much appreciated!
Transcript of interview
[Thanks to Paul Moore who works with David for providing the transcript]
Stan: First of all, just let me thank you. Can I call you David? Mr. Bohnett?
David: David.
Stan: Okay, thanks for doing this interview with me. A little introduction about you. You're not only the co-founder of GeoCities, but you're a life master at bridge.
David: I am. Do you play bridge?
Stan: I don't. I'll have to try it. You're an art collector, a runner. More importantly, I think you're someone with integrity who strives to remain true to yourself. Right now, you perform more roles in a Swiss army knife. You're the chairman of your own philanthropic foundation and many other organizations, trustee for other prestigious organizations. You also manage and founded Baroda ventures. Are you still managing that?
David: Yes, I am. I'm still active, absolutely.
Stan: I'm surprised you had time for this, but thank you again. From my understanding, you've been interested in computers from an early age, but what made you dive into the internet so early on?
David: Very good question. My career was in software and tech. Always had a big curiosity about, really, before you know, I had to curious about the telephone system and how it connected people. I was a ham radio operator, Stan, so I've got a background in this and curiosity about how people connect electronically, electrically and electronically. So once you could attach a modem to a computer, and I thought, well, that's pretty that's pretty awesome. So I had a 300 baud modem, and I started to connect to proprietary bullet board systems. And then the very early days of AOL Prodigy and CompuServe…it just opened up a whole new world where the computer wasn't this inert machine, it was a portal to a way to connect with other people. So I had a long background in wanting to learn more about communication technology, and a lot of experience with online services like AOL Prodigy, CompuServe, PBS, and when I first started reading about the web, very first time in the early 90s, I thought, wow, this could be really cool. So that's how I got started.
Stan: Yeah, I remember in the early 90s, it was brand new. It was so exciting. And I also know you've been, very active. You've been an activist for gay rights. Has that, has that shaped your experience or decisions in the tech industry or anything like GeoCities?
David: That's really thoughtful. You know, if I, if I step back, I think that you know, even the ability to communicate with each other, no matter what the medium is, whether it's the internet or even the now, with texts, etc, it's about reaching out, making connections with people that you might have a similar interest with.
I grew up in Chicago, then I came here to California to go to school at USC, and I'm on my way to USC. So when I was in college, I came out as a gay man, and it was a struggle, for sure. It was a different time. At that point, I was looking for ways to connect with other gay people, and so you could do that through AOL and the other online services but I had a career, I went to I went to college and graduate school. I had a career in software and tech, and I got my MBA. So I had a career in finance and software, but I was also a gay man, so all that sort of came together when I started to build GeoCities to provide a platform for people, no matter who they were, to find other people of similar interests. So sort of happens that way for anybody. We all have an identity, we all have interests, we all have characteristics. And for me, that's just one of them, and it was blended all in with the other things that I'm, you know, that I do and I'm passionate about, and that's how it came about.
Stan: Your history, your experience…this seems like that spurred you to get into philanthropy. I would say it's more like philanthropic activism is more like what you do or what you're very into, would that be accurate?
David: Good point. I grew up. My philanthropy is wide-ranging. Clearly, there has been an important focus on LGBT civil rights, but it's broader than that. It's social service and social justice. It's voter education, voter registration, it's gun safety, and anti-gun violence. It's socially responsible mass transit. It's a broad range, just like you. You have a family, and there's a variety of things you're interested in, just like me. So that's been one of them, but that's been a very important one, clearly, but it falls within this bigger umbrella of social justice, social service activism.
Stan: How do you decide which causes you support through your foundation and what? What impact have you noticed an impact from your efforts?
David: I hope so. We've been doing a long time and I set up a set of program areas right from the beginning, which you can see on the foundation website. And that's our structure. That's our template. And initially, we would get grant requests for the various program areas, anti-gun violence, work, voter education, and LGBT rights. I have people that would review those grant requests and I would allocate that I want to do a certain amount here, a certain amount there, and then they would look and talk to the people that made the grant applications, and we decide which ones fit within our objectives, and which ones do we think we can be most effective. And that's how it started 25 years ago, and that's how it still works today.
Stan: So with all your philanthropic experience, I'm sure you've explored Effective Altruism. I'm not like, terribly knowledgeable about EA myself, but right now it's getting a lot of buzz, although I don't think your work, like aligns perfectly with EA. I think their community could gain a lot of insight from someone with your experience. Do you have any comments, critiques, or suggestions on Effective Altruism?
David: Tell me about that. Tell me about that community and what they think it represents, or what you think it represents.
Stan: Well, I'm not an expert. It is what they do, research-based, science-based philanthropy, which is the best way to allocate resources to the most effective way to help people. There was Sam Bankman and he was big in EA and it's just got a lot of buzz. I thought you might have had some thoughts about it.
David: Sure. I'd say one of the most effective altruisms is when you see someone who's by the side of the road and they're having trouble changing their tire, you stop. That's the most effective. Or somebody that you know is homeless and they need money for food, you hand them money. So there's nothing more effective and direct than that. People like to put a lens, or, or a new moniker, name on philanthropy. Great. However, you want to do it. Good for you. If you have a spirit of trying to be altruistic, whatever you call it, have at it. It’s fine with me. I don't call mine anything, but I’m trying to help make the world a better place and to lift people up. So that's how I look at it. I don't criticize. I support people who say, EA is your thing, good for you, because there aren't enough people to do anything. And that's how there's all sorts of stuff like this with environmentally responsible altruism, etc, great. As long as someone's involved in something that helps make the world a better place, good for you. I'm all for it.
Stan: I do want to get into GeoCities, that's the main reason I wanted to talk to you today. Was there anything specific that inspired you to create GeoCities? What was the original vision or goal you had for GeoCities?
David: Well, it started, there was just an intense curiosity about this thing. You know, Tim Berner-Lee created this thing called the web. And I downloaded Windows, 32-bit extensions to my computer, and I got this early high-speed data line called ISDN. I got an ISDN line, and finally, I could connect. It was amazing. We take so much for granted now but to really see what a hypertext link could do and then go from there to there to there. I was fascinated by it. I was also fascinated by very early webcams, which I'm sure you could read about. There was a fish cam, there was a coffee pot cam, and I wanted one of these. So I thought, let's create some presence with a camera at the corner of Hollywood and Vine. I had a friend who had a graphic design office at that famous corner in Hollywood and John Resner, and I said, John, I want to do this. Nobody called it a webcam. I said I wanted this video camera thing. You couldn't buy them. You had to make them. So I had an old VCR camcorder, and we bought a Sun SPARCstation with a graphics card, and asked John, “Okay, here's the output from the camcorder. Can you, solder the output to the graphics card and then create an interface?” So that's what we did. And lo and behold, you could see, an image to the corner of Hollywood and Vine. It would refresh every eight seconds. I thought that was the coolest thing ever. It started with some breakout traffic. We were hosting, early web hosting, but it wasn't so exciting to me, and then we had this webcam. And I figured I was trying to figure out a way to monitor, not monetize, as I was trying to figure out a way to take advantage of the traffic. I was coming back from an early conference trade show, and I thought, well, let's just give people. Let's just give away web pages. And I've got these webcams, and these webcams are about specific places, like Hollywood. We only have one. So let's give away web pages, but let's organize them around themes of these places where the webcam is. So I thought, well, let's just do that. And so I told John, that's what I wanted to do. And then I wrote all the initial HTML for the site and had to write different HTML for AOL Prodigy and CompuServe. We picked neighborhoods initially where we wanted to have webcams, and then we had a webcam in our office, right on the corner window in Beverly Hills. So I thought, well, let's have a Rodeo Drive neighborhood. Then we built the interface for people to create web pages. And I sent an email to about, like, six or ten people, and I say, try this out. And people started creating web pages around themes. That was the real key is that these communities were organized thematically. They just weren’t random. That's, that's exactly how it started.
Stan: That's how the neighborhoods came to be. That's interesting. It answers some of my questions. You also mentioned monetization, but I don't recall ads being a big money maker back then. But was it? Was GeoCiities? Was it primarily funded by investments?
David: It was funded by my own savings and that's what I used. And then there were no ads on the internet. I remember seeing my very first banner ad, and I thought, this is new. I mean, literally, it was like a commercial, because it was a noncommercial medium for a long time as it was funded by government support. Initially it was very hard to get a domain name because it was not a commercial medium. So I remember seeing the first ads, and I thought, well, this is going to be one way, but as long as we can build an audience, we'll figure it out. There was no e-commerce yet, but we built an audience, and we started to integrate advertising and e-commerce. But it's really important to remember that we had to do all this ourselves. There was nothing. We had to build warehouses full of servers and all the software and architecture to manage all that. there was nothing for ad serving, there was nothing for user registration, there was nothing for nothing. Now there's so much that's application-based and plug and play, but we had to build all this ourselves and hire developers. It was all about trying to keep up with the growth, which was what so what was so exciting along the way.
Stan: Was that one of the biggest challenges?
David: Yes, response time, keeping up with the growth. I knew that if it was slow, people would go elsewhere, or they'd get frustrated. Poor John was like, “Listen, there's a problem here. People can't register. It's too slow.” That was a huge problem, actually, not a problem, but it was just a challenge that we had to overcome.
Stan: Do you miss anything about the old internet that GeoCities represented…the authenticity, the community?
David: I miss the optimism of it. I miss the sense that we're creating something that gives users the ability to create their own content, and user control over content generation in a way that is tied to my personality and my philanthropy. I miss the sense of…let's try and use this to make the world a better place. Let's try and use this to connect with other people, but inevitably, and even in our early days, you’ve got folks that come in and have other motivations. But I miss those early days when you really had the sense that we were creating something so new and so exciting and let's do the best we can.
Stan: I feel like something we've lost something today with the internet, and I can't put my finger on it, but I feel like back then there was a more authentic vibe. Do you have any would you change anything if you could go back in time?
David: Let's spend a little more time. I don't know if I would, but, I was naive and in a way, naivety can be a shield. Naivety can really protect you, because if you say, “Okay, now I'm gonna spend two hours thinking about all the terrible things that could happen.” Maybe you wouldn't even do it. Starting a business is so difficult and it's so unlikely, that if you spend all your time thinking how the odds are against you, you'd never even get started. I would absolutely go at it with the same approach I had at the time, because fortunately, you know it, it occupied a really important space of its time in the continuum of communities, communities of interests and social networks. So I think the echoes of it are here.. Look how long ago this was. We're here. The echoes of it are still in the present time. We're talking about good things. We're talking about positive things and so this isn't this is a manifestation of the fact that it's still around, and the positive aspects of it are still around.
Stan: You did sell to Yahoo in 1999?
David: We went public in 1998 and we sold in 1999/2000.
Stan: Then later Yahoo shut down GeoCities. Do you think that was a mistake?
David: I'd say nothing but good things about Yahoo. I think that's an inevitability. If you look at the history and let's just take traditional retail, and all the massive companies that have come and gone in traditional retail that you thought like Sears back in the day, thought that Sears is never going away. Kmart is never going away way before that. There are always new people that come along and they start small, and they have they have their own idea about how to do things. Ultimately, the companies that get so big, they can't respond as quickly, they're just not able to. It's the story of capitalism. It's the story of innovation. So I think it was inevitable, unfortunately. But the echoes are still there, and the echoes of GeoCities are still there, and some of these social network platforms today are heavily influenced: Myspace and Facebook.
Stan: I have so many fond memories, and I taught myself HTML, just from GeoCities. So thank you for that.
David: Well, thank me too, because there were no books and you can still see that today. You can still see copy and paste, like, well, this works. How great, wasn’t that fun, didn't you?
Stan: It was awesome. It was amazing. And I was just learning so fast. And I should have kept with it, but it's one of my biggest regrets.
David: You can go back into it. You're doing it now. It's never too late. You can always do something like that. It’s so fun now, jump into it a little bit, and see how you like it.
Stan: I'm, I'm gonna do that. One thing I did want to I want to ask you, if you were crowned king of Silicon Valley and big tech, would you prioritize or change anything different with any huge projects that need more visibility, more attention?
David: Yes, I would work on a global regulatory framework. We've gotten away with so much, for so long, Europe is ahead of us, the US in terms of a regulatory framework on privacy, user, data, content, and content guidelines. So if I were king, I would say we are all going to work together on a global regulatory framework. So good question. I wish, I wish it'll happen.
Stan: That's like a loaded topic, with so much going on today. There's AI-generated content, there's misinformation, there's censorship, gatekeeping and all of this is proliferating across the internet, for good or ill. How do you see the dynamics of misinformation, censorship, AI, and the democratization of information, evolving? Any thoughts on how technology and humanity might address these challenges?
David: The Telegraph. I'm not even talking about that telephone. When the telegraph was first invented, it was so revolutionary, and I'll never forget I read this quote about when people thought it saw that they could send a message to other countries to other societies, other cultures, the sense was, there'll be no more war. Now that we have a medium of communication with each other across distances, the thought anyway, was there won’t be any more war. Yes and no. There's been so many positive benefits, starting with the telegraph and beyond that's just going to keep going on. Think about the positive benefits that came from, from invention of the telegraph and electricity, etc. So you wouldn’t say, “ I don't want to have those.” And I think that the bad comes with the good. We'll continue to evolve that way and our responsibility as a society. There are broadcast standards for terrestrial television there, there was a time, and there still is a time when the FCC would not grant you a license unless you adhere to broadcast standards. So people think it's impossible. Well, it's really not. You just have to figure out a way to do it. I'm still optimistic that there are so many great things that are going to happen going forward.
Stan: That's another thing. In the 90s and the early 2000s I felt very optimistic. I thought that the Internet would bring the world together, and I think it did as you said, but then it, in many ways, stopped. I felt like the Internet had gone downhill. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but you're an optimist.
David: Yes and no. People have more access to services they wouldn't have otherwise. People have more access to job opportunities they wouldn't have otherwise. And then people have more access to disinformation they wouldn't get otherwise. What I've really learned is many things can be true at the same time, and what we're talking about now. It’s a conflict and a dichotomy of two things that are seemingly opposite, but they're both true. It's like the baby with the bathwater. I don't think you want to throw out the good stuff just to get rid of the bad stuff, right?
Stan: I agree. If you could go back in time, would you give your younger self any advice?
David: Don't worry so much and just stay aware. Stay aware you know you have an authentic self that doesn't have to be any different than it already is. It’s really important advice for all of us now. You have a beautiful, authentic self that is perfect the way it is, and you don't have to try to be something else.
Stan: I think that shines through in your activism, and your philanthropy.
David: Tell me what do you want to do next with the interview?
Stan: You have a couple of minutes left. I wanted to ask if you have any final thoughts on the legacy of GeoCities, or if there's anything else you'd like to add.
David: Well, you this is so helpful. First, I’m honored that you reached out. Second I appreciate this opportunity, because it reignites the echoes of what GeoCities was about. It reignites it for me. I'm off to a board meeting and there's a lot of difficult things we've got to deal with. But, thanks to you, I've been able to spend this time thinking about and reigniting all the positive energy of what that was about, what it's still about now. So that's what I'm taking away from this. And this is why I do this. I would say, Stan, we sold in 1999/2000, and the Internet was growing fast, and GeoCities …well there Friendster, Facebook, they were. Nobody paid any attention for a long time, almost 15 or 20 years, and then all of a sudden, I'm so grateful, like, whoa. Where'd all this come from? So that's very gratifying. I went off and led my own life, too. So I wasn't saying, “Oh, why isn't anybody calling GeoCities.” But it is such a great opportunity now, and I'm fortunate that I'm able to do it again, to reignite that energy and that source of optimism and practicality. Those are my closing thoughts. What are you going to do with this interview?
Stan: I'm gonna post this on my Substack. Write a little more about my experience with GeoCities. GeoCities has had a major impact on not only me but my family, like my brother and sister, who had their own GeoCities pages, and we were all very into the internet thanks to my dad. It's very nostalgic and have very, very good feelings about GeoCities. My brother is probably one of the best coders in Utah. GeoCities has had a hand in that. You've been a very huge influence in our lives. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I definitely want to share this and write more about it.
David: Thank you please send me a link once it's posted I'd love to see it.
Stan: One more thing, do you pronounce GIF or JIF… the image file?
David: GIF
Stan: All right that's it. Thank you very much.
In the Pipeline
With any luck, I may have Neddimus comic strip #3 out next week! Stay tuned.
Thanks for reading and happy Thursday!
I very lightly edited the video, as follows: I cut the first couple of minutes (mostly of me waiting for David to join), cut the last few seconds after the interview ended, and added some minor fading effects at the beginning and ending. Also note this is my first attempt at conducting a video interview—constructive feedback is appreciated.